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032281 Post 11,  TQ 445 984
At the point where Debden Lane, Loughton becomes Loughton Lane, Theydon Bois.
Opposite an house called "The Boundary".
The retro-reflective sign in the right hand picture says Theydon Bois
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037146 Post 12,  TQ 432 994
South side of Coppice Row, Epping
N of Jacks Hill, 500 yards E of the "Wake Arms"
Bench mark on the top
033035 Post 13,  TL 437 004
Epping Road, Epping
about 500 metres SW of the Bell Common Tunnel

Obelisk 20,  TL 372 050
Wormley. Beside the Lea Navigation near King's Weir Bridge. Bench Mark.

In the first picture the Navigation is between the stone and the pole visible in the background.
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Obelisk 21,  TL 370 051
Slipe Lane, Wormley. On east side of the railway line.
Described in ?1966 as "lying in several pieces on the ground. The inscription not identifiable."
Now re-erected, top foot or so of height missing but crest, inscription (14 & 15 VIC. C 146) and Bench Mark all clearly visible.

(The photos of this obelisk and the canal stone above were taken at dawn on May Day morning while the light was a bit too weak for my camera.)
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At the Brookmans Park site:
Posts 20 - 24
Post  25
not a Tax Post
Posts 26 & 27
Posts 28 - 30
Obelisk  31
Posts 33 - 36
   Wormley
Newgate Street
Essendon
Northaw
Potters Bar
Hawkshead
Colney Heath

035128 035129 Post 37,  TL 182 037
High Street, London Colney
Just north west of the bridge over the River Colne
The entry at Historic England has a photo dated 2001 which shows distinct evidence of a plate over the “24 Vict” having been removed.

035125 Post 38,  TL 175 032
Shenley Lane, London Colney
South side of Broad Colney Bridge

035120 035121 Post 39,  TL 173 023
Harper Lane, Shenley
Outside No. 108 The Lodge and near Harperbury Hospital
035123   Post 40,  TL 174 025
Harper Lane, Shenley
Outside No. 67
035122 Harper Lane, Shenley
Midway between these two Tax Posts. Just a post to announce that this is No. 100 but nice echoes of Tax Posts.
Cab drivers on night shift wish that all houses showed their numbers as clearly as this.

035118 Post 43,  TL 160 007
Watling Street, Radlett
East side of road, opposite Kitswell Way, south of the culvert for a stream and half a mile north of the station
035119 Post 44,  TL 162 000
Watling Street, Radlett
West side of road, 100 yards north of Park Road, beside Radlett United Synagogue

043093 Posts 47 & 48,  TQ 110 964
Watford
At either end of an alley between
←  New Street  and  High Street  →

The other post can be seen in the background of each of these pictures.
 
No descriptive signs of any sort.  No indication that these posts are not in their original positions - compare with the careful notice on Post 98 that it has been moved just two metres.
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034157 Post 58,  TQ 059 922
Rickmansworth Road, Harefield at the point where it becomes Harefield Road, Rickmansworth. 
Just on to the Hertfordshire side of the county boundary - a 'Welcome to Hillingdon' sign can be seen on the right of this photo.
 
More pictures of this post in daylight and showing before- and after-restoration states
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038025   Post 77,  TQ 028 770
N side of Park Street,
E of Colnbrook Bridge

Plate 78 can be seen on the left of this picture

See here how a slight change of viewpoint made all the difference between a "supplemental" grade for my photo and a geograph point for someone else.

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Plate 78,  TQ 028 770
in N parapet of Colnbrook Bridge

Post 79,  TQ 025 764
in field to SW of Poyle Manor on E bank of the Colne Brook.
 
A difficult to reach location. Not yet visited.
  Post 80,  TQ 025 758
S side of Stanwell Road / Horton Road as realigned following the construction of the Wraysbury Reservoir, 300 yards E of junction with Coppermill Road.
There is confusion on maps which suggest that Stanwell Road continues to the Poyle Road roundabout. This road sign suggests that the road changes its name on the boundary between Windsor & Maidenhead and Slough. This is the point where the post should be but unfortunately it seems to be missing. Certainly there is no undergrowth for it to hide in.
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037030 Post 81?,  TQ 026 720
N side of Wraysbury Road, Staines and E side of the County Ditch about 40 yards E of Lammas Drive

As the name County Ditch suggests this is the boundary and we might expect there to have been a Post here originally.  On the Victorian maps site we have a choice of three versions: Berkshire, Middlesex and Surrey.  But none of them shows a post.

This may be the post that was originally at TQ 022 749, in field fence E of Moor Farm, Horton - now under the water of the Wraysbury Wreservoir.


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Obelisk 82, TQ 026 720
S side of Wraysbury Road, Staines and W side of the County Ditch about 30 yards E of Lammas Drive

In the picture below left Post 81? can be seen in the background on the left.

Original location was TQ 018 738
(not shown on the map but presumably near the point where the County Ditch crosses the railway)
N side railway, E of stream and 600 yards SE of Wraysbury Station

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037183 037027 037028 Stone 83,  TQ 028 718
In Lammas Pleasure Ground, Staines beside the river.
The London Stone - the great … great grandparent of the posts
This is a replica (see below).

A board near the stone tells us:

Until 1350, management of rivers was in the hands of the monarch but in 1197 Richard I sold the rights and revenues of the lower Thames to the Corporation of the City of London. He did this to pay off debts incurred while fighting the Third Crusade.

At this time, Staines was the first town upstream from London with a bridge and stood at the tidal limit of the river so it was an obvious place to mark the Corporation's control. The stone stood beside the river near the old town bridge from 1285 until moved here two or three hundred years ago.

More recently the stone was removed for restoration and protection to the Old Town Hall Art Centre, Market Square, Staines and a replica put in its place.

The current Town Bridge, Staines was erected after the stone had been moved to the Lammas.
One face of the stone (facing right in the picture above) displays semi- circular indentations.  These were made by the tow ropes of horse-drawn vessels rubbing against the stone.  The same damage can be seen on almost every bridge over every British canal (see below).

There is also a London Stone in Cannon Street.  But that one is even older and quite different.

037179 TQ 034 715
The Old Town Hall, Market Square, Staines
038261 Bridge 73,  SU 399 672
Shepherds Bridge, midway between Dreweat's Bridge and Kintbury Bridge
(Kennet and Avon Canal)

tq8678_342   Downstream digression, TQ 860 786
Beside the mouth of Yantlet Creek, Isle of Grain

Another London Stone. This marked the downstream limit of the Corporation's control.  Note that while the London Stone, Staines (above) lies right on the line of route of the Coal and Wine Tax Posts, this London Stone by Yantlet Creek lies about 20 miles further downstream from the line of route which crosses the Thames at the mouth of the Darent.
 
In this image, the chimney of the Isle of Grain power station can be seen in the background.

Wikipedia article on London Stones (started by me)
(Note how long this article went before anybody else edited it! And I certainly had not left it an orphan.)

 
More of my pictures
My image on geograph
Page on John Eade's Thames website

033246 033244 Post 94,  TQ 095 664
Bridge Street, Walton on Thames
Approach to Walton Bridge

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Obelisk 102,  TQ 140 658
North side of railway beside No 100 Douglas Road, Esher
Opposite junction with Blair Avenue
 
Post 103,  TQ 139 657
South side of Lower Green Road, Esher
Opposite Lower Green Open Space and railway bridge leading to Douglas Road
 
Post 104,  TQ 145 653
North side of Portsmouth Road, Esher
600 yards west of the Scilly Isles, almost built into "The Toll House"

  033212 Marked on map 109,  TQ 141 622  
Copsem Lane, Oxshott
Corner of The Rythe private road, south of Esher Common Roundabout

033250 033249 Marked on map 110,  TQ 140 618
Copsem Lane, Oxshott
junction with Sandy Lane and Warren Lane

036022 Post 115,  TQ 166 600
W side of Kingston Road, Leatherhead at the point where it becomes Leatherhead Road, Malden Rushett outside "The Star"

  033257 Post 118, TQ 183 612
Christ Church Road (thus on maps but Christchurch Road on road name signs), Epsom. North side of road in Stew Pond Valley about 200 yards east of Post 119.
 
Half buried and becoming rusty.
 
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033253 Post 119, TQ 182 612
At the point where Christ Church Road, Epsom becomes Rushett Lane, Malden Rushett.
South side of road outside Glanmire Farm. 

036039 036038 Post 122,  TQ 194 594
North side of Dorking Road,Epsom
at the point where it becomes Epsom Road, Ashtead

034011 Post 125,  TQ 201 574 Headley Road, Epsom
junction with Langley Vale Road and Downs Road
036202 Post 128,  TQ 219 577
20 yards east of Walton Road (bridleway) on Epsom Downs
in clearing, 150 yards north of junction with Old London Road (bridleway)
 
In need of re-painting

036200 036201 Marked on map 129,  TQ 221 578
West side of Old London Road, Epsom Downs
by its southern crossing of Race Course.
 
The inscription faces into a thorn bush but it has still been carefully repainted.
 
From this post the next three posts on the list are all visible:
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Marked on map 130,  TQ 223 581    East side of Old London Road by the 5 furlong post of Epsom Downs Racecourse.
Post 131 can be seen in the background of the left photo.
The stumps of the bolts which held the correction plate in place have each
received a dab of black paint as though they were part of the inscription.
(Furlong and florin are two words which sadly are dropping out of the language.  Both are still valid and both were part of attempts to decimalise the Imperial system of measures.  1 furlong = 10 chains = 1000 links.  Also, the furlong is conveniently close to 200 metres - 201.168 metres to be precise.)

036172 Post 131,  TQ 224 581
E side of Epsom Lane North, Tattenham Corner, 100 yards S of Tattenham Crescent, on a grassy knoll.
The grandstands of Epsom Racecourse can be seen in the background of this picture.
The post may have been moved a few yards further from the road when this area was tidied in 1994 after a train driver fell asleep and damaged the old station.
  034013 Post 132, TQ 225 584
Outside the Tattenham Corner Public House

034014 Post 133, TQ 226 578
Epsom Lane North, Tadworth
outside No. 100

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Post 135,  TQ 226 560
South side of Motts Hill Lane, Tadworth. 100 yards west of The Avenue behind a fence
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Post 136,  TQ 226 558
West side of footpath at a branch in the path, 150 yards south of Motts Hill Lane, Tadworth. The path continues south past The Bell public house to Withybed Corner.

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Post 137,  TQ 227 553
West side of Deans Lane, Walton on the Hill. Near the junction with The Street and beside the entrance to Deans Close.
This view is looking northwest from the post and shows the Mere Pond with swans on it.
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Post 138,  TQ 228 552
West side of Deans Lane, Walton on the Hill in garden of "The Rise".
The occupiers of this house, showing a proper respect for the City's crest, have put a dip in the wall to enable it to be seen. (Compare with the way Post 136, above is totally ignored.)

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Post 139,  TQ 229 551
East end of Chucks Lane, Walton on the Hill, on edge of Banstead Heath
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Post 140,  TQ 230 548
Southeast side of Dorking Road, Walton on the Hill, 400 yards northeast of the junction with Deans Lane

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Post 141,  TQ 231 547
100 yards southeast of Post 140 on Walton Heath
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Post 142,  TQ 232 546
150 yards southeast of Post 141 on Walton Heath. Nail says "beside sheds". Sheds have gone.
This view is looking southwest across the golf course

 

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The view from near Post 152

036157 036156 Post 155,  TQ 243 552
East side of Brighton Road, Kingswood
100 yards south of Birch Grove

035209 035211 Post 159,  TQ 272 579
Outwood Lane, Chipstead
Opposite Stagbury House

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036035 Post 160,  TQ 275 578
Hazelwood Lane, Chipstead
At the junction with Bridgeway and Stagbury Close

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Post 161,  TQ 279 578
W side of How Lane, Chipstead
opposite Yew Tree Close
 
Almost buried in the undergrowth. 
The squiggles in the photo are spots of daylight plus camera shake.

035139 035140 035141 Post 162,  TQ 286 580
At the junction of Coulsdon Lane, Hollymeoak Road, Portnalls Road, Rickman Hill Road and Hollymead Road, Chipstead
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Try this image as a jigsaw

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033270 Post 163,  TQ 291 576
Brighton Road, Hooley
East side of road about 150 yards north of the present boundary between Croydon and Reigate & Banstead.
Very dirty because this is a very busy road and very difficult to spot when the trees are in leaf.

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Brighton Road, Hooley.  Modern boundary signs situated between the two Tax Posts in the Brighton Road.
The middle one is almost as cryptic as a Tax Post:   HA = Highways Agency   TfL = Transport for London

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035136 Post 164,  TQ 289 568
Brighton Road, Hooley
Corner of Netherne Drive, beside Star Bridge.

Not found!   Obelisk 165,  TQ 289 567
The western of two ... The eastern of two ... ... cuttings at this point
037013 037012 Looking south from Star Bridge (Netherne Drive)
037017 037018 Looking north from Forge Bridge
'West side of Redhill railway line at Hooley, 100 yards south of Star Bridge' [CoL]
The Corporation of London page singles out this Obelisk for mention as 'inaccessible except by rail'. But in fact you get a clear view of this part of the track from Star Bridge or Forge Bridge, 300 yards further south.
I would expect to see the Obelisk in both the left hand pictures above but I have looked very carefully and cannot see any sign of it.

033174 033175 n166_051xt Post 166,  TQ 304 568
Ditches Lane, Coulsdon
near Devilsden Wood
This post is a bit accident prone.

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Images produced from the www.old-maps.co.uk service with permission of Landmark Information Group Ltd. and Ordnance Survey where www.old-maps.co.uk is hyperlinked to http://www.old-maps.co.uk, Landmark Information Group Ltd. is hyperlinked to http://www.landmark-information.co.uk and Ordnance Survey is hyperlinked to http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk

Missing Posts!
TQ 318 563
TQ 318 565
TQ 320 566
One post just off the end of The Grove, Coulsdon Common and two posts in The Grove.
Marked M1 on the map.
 
Click on the map for a larger version.
Note The Fox and the Tally Ho pubs; both still there.
On the larger version, near bottom right note the intriguing Money Pit still remembered in the name of Money Road.

035111 035110 035109 Post 167,  TQ 322 568
Coulsdon Road, Coulsdon Common opposite The Grove.
On the present boundary between Croydon and Tandridge

035207 035208 036203 Post 168, TQ 325 570
Coulsdon / Caterham, on SW side of road 90 yards NW of the junction of Ninehams Road and Milton Road.  (Carefully worded -see below.)
On the present boundary between Croydon and Tandridge.  (Note the join in the road surface between the two authorities.)
The 4 of 24 and the C of CAP are both completely flat.
Also the 2 of CAP 42 is so flat that it has been painted wrongly.
  036204 All the old lists seen describe the house nearest to this post as 22 Stites Hill Road and all road maps seen show Stites Hill Road extending to the Junction with Milton Road.  However the Postcode directory is perfectly clear that the six houses along this 90 yard stretch of road are 112 to 122, Ninehams Road, CATERHAM, CR3 5LJ
Neither of the local authorities has erected road name signs to indicate that they have accepted the change of name.  It has been left to the owner of the house nearest the post to clarify the situation.
 

035113xt In the pictures of both the above posts, signs can be seen in the background. These bear the same shield as the posts and carry this story:

CORPORATION OF LONDON

COULSDON COMMONS

The Corporation of London is the local authority for the City of London. It provides services not only in the City but also far outside its boundary.
In response to public concern at the loss of commons and parks to development in the nineteenth century, it established the policy of acquiring land for public open spaces within 25 miles of the City for the benefit of Londoners and the nation.
Consequently, the four Coulsdon Commons (Farthing Downs, Coulsdon Common, Kenley Common and Riddlesdown) were bought by the Corporation in 1883. It also acquired West Wickham Common in 1892 and Spring Park in 1926.
Although not registered as commons today, all these open spaces are protected from development by the 1878 Act under which they were acquired. The cost of maintaining them is met from the Corporation's own private resources with occasional support from public bodies.

  035042 TQ 328 570
Corner of Ninehams Road and Merlewood Close, Caterham
Outside the Corporation of London's Estate Office for the commons mentioned above.
 
This is not a Tax Post and is quite recent. But it carries on the cast iron Corporation of London tradition. It is just a post to keep your vehicle off the kerb or grass - and of an height designed to ensure that you will not see it just before you reverse into it.

037031 Missing Post!  TQ 330 573
East side of Buxton Lane, Caterham at the point where it becomes Hayes Lane, Kenley.
Marked M2 on the map above and on the larger version.
 
This post is leaning and bears the inscription 'Croydon Rural District 1895 Coulsdon'.
An identical post to this one stands beside City Post 162 in Chipstead and as we can see on the map there ought to be a City Post standing here but it has long since vanished.
 
The name Buxton Lane had struck me as odd because it is clearly an old road from long before the habit of naming roads after holiday destinations.  The larger map gives us an answer by calling it Buxton's Lane - it is named after a person.  But a developer has picked up on the geographic idea and built Matlock Road off it.

A different view of Old Coulsdon

035212 035213 Post 169,  TQ 338 583
Whyteleafe Hill, Whyteleafe
50 yards east of the junction with Hornchurch Hill

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This view from Church Road is about the best you can legally get.
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n170_078 Obelisk 170,  TQ 340 581
Behind No 376 Godstone Road, Whyteleafe
 
Sit on the right hand side of the train from Caterham to East Croydon and hope that it will not go too fast between Whyteleafe South and Whyteleafe.
Or find the allotments in Church Road, 300 yards S of Whyteleafe Hill, walk through them towards the railway and look to your right.

036043 036044 036045 Post 171,  TQ 341 580
W side of Godstone Road, Whyteleafe
300 yards north of Salmons Lane, outside No. 376
 
The original inscription has been carved out to a depth of about 5 mm. As a result of this and/or subsequent rust, there is a hole right through to the inside.
I have a private theory that the curious defacement of the inscription on this post was a political protest contemporary with the erection of the post. Caterham lay and still lies outside the Metropolitan Police District but the only practical way to bring coal into Caterham in 1861 was by the railway via Caterham Junction station. Since this lay firmly within the Metropolitan Police District, presumably the tax was payable.

036046 Post 172,  TQ 344 577
Well Farm Road, Whytelefe
100 yards from Godstone Road
Not found!

At both of these locations there may be a post hiding among all that lush vegetation but I have looked very hard and could not see either of them

036048 Post 173,  TQ 353 570
Stuart Road, Whytelefe
100 yards from Woldingham Road
Viewed from Post 174

035037 033023 Post 174,  TQ 354 570
Woldingham Road, Whytelefe
junction of Stuart Road

Makers mark on front and rear of the base

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036025 036026 036049 Post 175,  TQ 358 577
Bug Hill, Woldingham outside "Halliloo House"

033025 Post 176,  TQ 364 582
Limpsfield Road, Warlingham outside Sainsbury's supermarket.

A plaque in front of the post has been removed by vandals but thanks to Alan C Edwards we can deduce what it said:
In 1994 the site of Chelsham Bus Garage was being re-developed as a Sainsbury's supermarket.
On 1994 January 24, Monday this post was removed from its original position at the SW corner of the junction of Limpsfield Road and Chelsham Road to make room for a roundabout large enough allow articulated lorries to enter Sainsbury's delivery bay.
On 1994 July 27, Wednesday the post was re-erected at the corner of the new pedestrian walkway between the bus layby and the entrance to the supermarket.

bsr1963s The post in its original position
Bourne Society Bulletin No. 7,  August 1957
IRON BOUNDARY POSTS
The item in Bulletin No. 6 on this subject produced a good deal of information from a number of members.  One or two queries are now being investigated and it is hoped to publish a supplement to the next issue of the Bulletin giving a complete list of the posts, or the sites of posts, which are situated within our area.
One thing that should be put right immediately is the statement made in the last issue as to the total number of posts erected around London.  The figure quoted was l,700, which was taken in good faith from a newspaper cutting on the subject, but many members have written in to say that 200-250 is much nearer the mark, and their information is supported by contemporary evidence.
Whoever captioned the above picture clearly had not read this or they would not have repeated the figure of 1700.

033027   Post 177,  TQ 366 584
Sunny Bank, Warlingham
junction of Chelsham Road

The spots on this picture are, I believe, fog

  032168   Post 178,  TQ 371 591
Harrow Road, Warlingham
junction of Chelsham Road

036027 Post 179,  TQ 365 597
East side of Old Farleigh Road, Farleigh just north of "The Harrow"
036050 Post 180,  TQ 368 596
North end of Daniels Lane, Farleigh at edge of Little Park Wood

05c146 Post 181,  TQ 382 602
On the edge of Little Farleigh Green on footpath to Fickleshole. About 200 yards NW of the point where Farleigh Court Road becomes Scotshall Lane.

Lorna van Zee's image at GeoGraph. Note the discussion.
My image at GeoGraph.
Two more images.


The sign says "Welcome to Bromley"
 
A better picture of this post
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Post 183,  TQ 395 613
King Henry's Drive, New Addington
200 yards north west of the junction of Skid Hill Lane and Layhams Road, etc.
 
 
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Post 184,  TQ 396 610
Skid Hill Lane, New Addington
100 yards south of the junction of King Henry's Drive and Sheepbarn Lane, etc.
 
 
035004 035005 Post 185,  TQ 398 611
Sheepbarn Lane, New Addington
150 yards east of the junction of Skid Hill Lane and Layhams Road, etc.

035008 035007 035006 Post 186,  TQ 415 617
On Leaves Green
 
The village sign in the first picture can be seen in the background of the third picture.
 

This post before the paint job (see below).

035009 wkgolf Post 187,  TQ 424 612
Green Hill, Downe
Near one of the greens of West Kent Golf Club.
This post is leaning
 
"Councillor George Taylor, holder of Bromley Council's Environment Portfolio, rolled up his sleeves to put the finishing touches to the club's freshly repainted Coal Tax Post"
 
from Rabbit, The Planning Division Newsletter of the London Borough of Bromley, November 2002

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Post 188,  TQ 435 600
Single Street, Berry's Green near the point where it becomes Luxted Road.  Outside a bungalow called Brambleside
Post 189,  TQ 439 606
At the point where Cudham Road, Downe (also known as Hangrove Hill) becomes Downe Road, Cudham. Outside an house appropriately called The Boundary
Post 190,  TQ 451 629
West side of Cudham Lane, Cudham.  Opposite No 83

035013 grnstg Post 191,  TQ 456 632
Corner of Cudham Lane North and Old Hill,
Green Street Green
 
The black and white picture is from Rabbit, The Planning Division Newsletter of the London Borough of Bromley, November 2002 and the rabbit must be called Flopsy because they have flopped the picture (and also omitted 'post' from the caption).
035019 035018 035015 Post 192,  TQ 456 633
Near the roundabout, Green Street Green.
Between Farnborough Way and High Street. Near the Royal Oak and opposite the Rose and Crown

038035 Post 193,  TQ 456 635
West side of High Street, Green Street Green.
Opposite Baptist Church

n199_219 Post 199, TQ 479 651
Chelsfield Lane, Chelsfield. Beside the entrance to Goddington Park
    tq4865_159 Post 200, TQ 484 652
East side of Skibbs Lane. 1200 yards north of Chelsfield.
 
That is not water in the background but plastic sheeting over crops.

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